Kelly has a provocative conversation with writer, speaker and lawyer Savala Nolan whose new book is called Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body.
“I just want to say how much I love poetry. What a respite it has been for me in moments of grief. And also, it feels like the language of poetry is the opposite of an algorithm in a way that iwv extremely refreshing and cleansing. Part of the reason that I relate to poetry and love it so much is because of what you said about this ability to hold the bad and the good, the dark and the light. I think if we're unwilling to go into the shadow side of ourselves or our lives, we're missing a real solid chunk of what is to be learned or seen or savoree or excavated.”
“I have this resume of polarities that informs how I look at the world and how I write about the world and, in particular, how I think about what it means to have a body, and what we learn when we sort of put our attention on our bodies and how our bodies move through the world.”
“What I hoped was that by winning the approval of a certain type of white guy I would be sort of airlifted out of my otherness. I would be saved from feeling so incredibly different and unworthy. And so at the time that I was doing this pursuit of these men, you know which I'm not engaged in any more, but I was until fairly recently, I knew that, essentially, the function of their approval of me was to obliterate the parts of myself that I didn't like.”