Getting to Yes, And

Conversations at the intersection of creativity and commerce.

Hosted by Kelly Leonard, Executive Director, Insights + Applied Improvisation, “Getting to Yes, And” features conversations with visionary writers, thinkers, and doers who are using creativity to challenge conventional business approaches. A Second Citizen for over 30 years, Kelly is the co-author of “Yes, And,” a book that explores the power of improvisation to transform businesses and individuals.
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Holding It Together

Guest: Jessica Calarco

Kelly connects with Jessica Calarco, a Sociologist and Associate Professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. to discuss her latest book "Holding it Together: How Women Became America’s Social Safety Net."


Writing for Busy Readers

Guest: Todd Rogers

Kelly talks to Harvard Professor Todd Rogers about his book “Writing for Busy Readers: Communicate More Effectively in the Real World” that he co-wrote with Jessica Lasky-Fink.


Emma Seppälä: Sovereign

Guest: Emma Seppälä Copy

Kelly welcomes back Yale professor Emma Seppälä to the podcast to discuss her new book: “Sovereign: Reclaim Your Freedom, Energy, and Power in a Time of Distraction, Uncertainty and Chaos.”

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